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in the 1930s President Franklin Delano

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Roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcast known as the

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the common man that our society would

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well we're far from 1930 and I deal with

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a different kind of fire worldly

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frustration we offer a fresh

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conversation

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I'm Greg Carr would and hey there hello

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and hallelujah good people the Internet

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Greg Carl would hear and it is not often

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anymore that I preface these episodes

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with any sort of preamble unless we do

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something out of the ordinary and I

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think today sort of qualifies for that

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firstly you might remember that we've

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had Patrick Jordan on once before where

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we did what I thought was one hell of a

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show about his research into the medical

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machine as a weapon both in modern times

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and distant eras that are much more

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surprising and I do enjoy Patrick's

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perspective it is one of the most

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extreme positions I've heard someone

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take on this show when it comes to

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issues like this and I salute him for

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that rebellious Ness but what's

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different about today is that we're also

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joined by a net who is a member of his

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research group he calls the little red

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hens just regular folks studying and

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researching as best they can out of

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personal interest and dedication to

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seeking out these hidden truths and

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having a net join us was a real treat

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because she's been through the medical

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wringer firsthand she's seen one

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by pharmaceuticals that make the problem

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worse and the new things go wrong etc

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etc and she's going to tell you all

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about it but I'm sure we all know

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someone in our circles who has similar

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experiences and it's very sad to see but

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from a podcast production perspective

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history can be a bit dry I'm aware of

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that but in Annette's sections I think

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she describes a template that while the

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details are pretty personal and specific

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tends to represent a big chunk of

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family and I thank her for making the

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effort to be on the line I know it

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wasn't particularly easy as she's still

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dealing with so much in the way of her

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health it is kind of a lot to ask them

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her presence is important and adds a

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layer of credibility to the overall case

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plus I wanted to say that as you start

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listening you might hear some bad lags

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in Patrick's connection but I had us all

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reestablished the call after a few

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minutes and luckily we cleared that

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the whole show and as you know THC has a

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engaging as we can but I do hope content

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wise it's all good food for thought and

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some added perspective for your own

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models I know it was kind of exciting

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for them because they brought to the

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table some research and findings that

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they have not spoken about publicly

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anywhere really and the implications are

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pretty epic so that's really all I just

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things that I say in the actual intro so

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let's just dive into it right after I

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the market to little sparkles about to

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open up information about the secret

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manipulation and the wisest aficionados

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woman back care now what we thought we

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knew for certain so we can see the world

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with a brand new said about you

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sweets Ola busca people how we doin from

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sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carl wood and

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over the years we've been unpacking many

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unconventional boxes from 5g in the

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five-pointed star to our cons aliens and

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AI but one of my favorite conspiratorial

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categories has become those things that

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reside within the medical sphere because

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to realize the dark Wizards of the

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Western medical monopoly are not your

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friends at all is a dark and startling

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thing to come to grips with but should

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we be that surprised when we turn our

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wartime chemical companies into the

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faces of Big Pharma and food production

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when we let oil tycoon sweep nature

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under the rug and offer up oil only

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solutions when we go to a hotbed of Mad

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German scientists conducting human

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experimentation psychological torture

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and eugenics campaigns and give them

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jobs running our system well when you

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reflect on some of these questions the

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denial starts to wash away and you start

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to see that this couldn't have really

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turned into anything but the big mess we

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have today put all this under the

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capitalist umbrella and the words of

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Chris Rock ring truer than ever there

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ain't no money in the cure the money's

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in the comeback and within this overall

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context we have many smaller sagas full

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of injected bovine proteins monkey

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pain and good doctors suspended which is

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all in the mix of today's medical

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microcosm the topic of Lyme disease and

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who better to break it all down than

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returning guest Patrick Jordan because

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Patrick has been breaking down the

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attack that is modern medicine for years

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he's written over a dozen books on the

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subject including icd-9 nine-nine

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vaccine induced diseases the chronic

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serum sickness postulate which we talked

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about last time as well as titles like

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operator's manual for the human body

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assaulted and same Pig different

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lipstick he also runs the website

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vaccine fraud calm and you know we had

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to snag that domain early joining him

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today is his good friend and fellow

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researcher Annette someone who's been

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listening to THC for several years

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helped me to first get mr. Jordan on the

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show and unfortunately has been through

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the ringer of the medical machine she's

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dealt with the devil over Antigua

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presents and has also been diagnosed

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with lupus for which she's been working

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with Patrick to treat as a manifestation

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of Lyme disease with some success I

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think this is going to be some powerful

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i opening stuff so let's do it Patrick

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and Annette welcome to the show thank

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you very much Greg it's good to be here

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thanks Greg I really appreciate this you

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actually have the scoop on us releasing

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other than my low viewership views you'd

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of concepts major concepts that are

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going to absolutely destroy medicine and

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alternative medicine for all time so

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this for me is a big show and I

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appreciate you having it on Wow Wow yes

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I am honored to play a small role in

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getting the word out and Patrick so

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we've done this once before and just to

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give people a little reminder we talked

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about your position that medicine has

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always been a military offensive

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operation not about helping people

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the reason battlefields were always so

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full of disease is that soldiers were

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given injections so that even if they

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died out they would still keep killing

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in a sense you know once they've been

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injected that's something that really

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stuck out to me but the overall theme

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was that many many of these conditions

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we call disease come actually from

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vaccine reactions sometimes even decades

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later this is all a creation of the

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system and my second question will go to

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Annette but Patrick how do you frame up

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this conversation about Lyme disease

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okay it came to us and that's why I want

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to make a net and her screen name as one

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of the little red hands that's part of

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my unpaid research team we were working

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on her health for about three years and

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we got her to a certain level of health

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when she decided to on her own taper

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from antidepressants

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in that process it unmasked lupus from

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we divined so to speak that there was a

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connection with Lyme and so well I have

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done over the years is the best a theory

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all continual that everything is

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connected to everything else

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and Louis Pasteur who I think is an

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insane monster he had a pair of his

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quote that goes chance favors the

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prepared mind so as we were working with

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a net and that's why I want to make her

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center stage here as we were working

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with her we were able to deconstruct all

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of medicine and alternative medicine to

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the place where everything that I had

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studied and was taught since 1978

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completely went out the window and we

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collectively the red hands and I have

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been learning biophysics from the ground

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up only because we had to throw out all

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the lies and I actually forgot what your

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question was

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was just about framing things up which

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you did quite well okay good mm-hmm

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so and that you can jump in here as well

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you know how did you get involved with

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Patrick's research group and how have

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you felt in your firsthand experience

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that this treatment alternative has been

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working as opposed to what was offered

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up from the medical machine when I first

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discovered Patrick while listening to

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Clint Richardson when he was on our BN

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radio it's really synchronistic because

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my son's name was Patrick and my

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mother's maiden name was Jordan I loved

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his personality I loved his knowledge I

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loved his insight into medicine and

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prion disease and his whole philosophy

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vaccine fraud issues and all of that I

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really appreciated that so I checked out

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his website and found out that he did

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consoles and I was having a lot of

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health issues so I contacted him and

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told him how I'd learned of him and we

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started working together September of

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2015 so it's been three and a half years

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now almost

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did a complete bio of my medical history

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I was a really very sickly child I had

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really bad asthma this was back in the

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50s before they were asthma drugs

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there weren't any albuterol inhaler czar

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cortisone inhalers or any that type of

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stuff and I grew up in the Houston area

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on the east side of Houston close to the

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Houston Ship Channel and that is where

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there's so much all the oil refineries

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and there's a lot of during that time at

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night they would let out all of the crap

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that was created during the day and

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they'd fill the air and in the 50s there

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was no air conditioning so sleeping at

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night with the window open I would get

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really really sick in the middle of the

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night and have to be rushed to the

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emergency room to get a shot of

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adrenaline because I couldn't breathe

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so all of my problems started out when I

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was very young with asthma

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and one of the things that Patrick and I

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discovered during our consultation

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together was that I probably didn't

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really have allergies and asthma per se

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it was more a mast cell disorder and

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mast cells mas T the mast cell controls

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the release of histamine and so that was

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one of the first big breakthroughs in my

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health was discovering that all of the

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antihistamines that I've been taking

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over the years all of the allergy

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testing that I had over the years

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allergy shots none of that helped me and

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Annette let me interrupt for a second

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tell everybody how long you had taking

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antihistamines with absolutely no relief

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most of my life about 40 years 40 years

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of a poison with no results we came

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across the idea of masala disorder and I

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suggested it to Annette and I said hey

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how about we pursued this avenue of

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treatment remedy because there's certain

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things that can't say because I'm not a

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doctor can't give medical advice so it's

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like okay we found mast cell

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stabilization remedies and you tell them

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how it work you know how many grams

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you're taking per day and how many

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you're taking now well when I first

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started taking the mast cell stabilizer

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which it's a natural bioflavonoids it's

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found abundantly in onion it's called

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quercetin qu ER c ET i n is that correct

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Patrick yep okay

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the max limit is you can take up to 8

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grams a day and I was taking between 6

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and 8 grams a day

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I would take like 1500 milligrams three

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or four times a day to keep my allergies

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in check

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and I'm at a point now to where I take

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two in the morning I take a thousand

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milligrams a day and it's all and I

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don't even really feel that I need those

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but I take it just to be on the safe

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side but I really low allergy problems

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no sneezing the horrible allergies

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difference that I had experience most of

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my life have pretty much gone away with

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this natural bioflavonoids mmm and so

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1000 milligrams of grams so he's on 1/8

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of the dose that she needed the state

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bought her condition and it worked

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famously for granny Annie I love to call

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her that

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who's that the screening work you know

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really well for her but another one of

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our people had tried quarter teaspoon of

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course eaten and it just about made her

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pass out so the thing that is is

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individual tailoring of whatever it is

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that you need to get from point A to

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point B so everything that we say is not

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going to work for everybody all the time

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and that's the one thing that

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alternative medicine does not do they

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will push something like course eaten

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like it's the second coming and never

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give you like I just did the other side

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of the coin that it may not be for

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everybody

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mmm that makes a lot of sense and so

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Annette was diagnosed with lupus and

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Annette you send me a lot of overall

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material on really the Lyme disease

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situation and it seems like this guy dr.

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Alan McDonald was a real pioneer here

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but while the media gets us all hyped up

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about Ebola or the bird flu Lyme is

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actually infecting tens of thousands a

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year and on and that's unofficially

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because if dr. McDonald and you guys are

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correct people who have MS lupus ALS

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Parkinson's and Alzheimer's might all be

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dealing with the Lyme spirochete which

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is could be thought of maybe as like a

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parasite and so it's going to affect

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different areas of the body differently

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wherever it wants to go so that number

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really be in the hundreds of thousands

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because there's all these miss

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reporting's going on when it is a single

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cause which is this Lyme spirochete is

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that right

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correct yes the CDC in the past admitted

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to like 30,000 new cases a year they've

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now gone up to about 300,000 cases a

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year

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and according to dr. McDonald it's

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closer to 900,000 cases per year and the

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documentary under our skin they listed

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as close to about eight or nine hundred

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thousand cases a year hmm

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Greg what I would like to do is to bring

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the audience up in a stepwise fashion

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because it's not that you jumped the gun

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but you brought us into Alan McDonald

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and of all the physicians because he was

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a forensic medical examiner of all the

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physicians of all the world he blew the

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lid off of what line is now line is not

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just Borrelia spa suite he proved beyond

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a shadow of a doubt that when a tick

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bites you in its pit and I'll give you

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the laundry list later but among the

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things that a tick injects into the

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victim our things called filarial worms

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and they are tiny they are tiny little

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round worms they're nematodes and they

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actually act as like the taxi or the

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city bus for Borrelia and nematode

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burrows into the spinal cord it can get

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into the cerebral spinal fluid it can

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either set up there or get into the

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brain and some people you know

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especially the Lyme people will know the

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word neural Verrilli osis meaning that

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the spirochete alone nobody's talking

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about the worm that's like that elephant

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in the room nobody's talking about the

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worms but they talk about the neuro

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Berlioz's

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from the spirochete organism and that

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means that you're insane in the membrane

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now what I would like to do is tie that

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in

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that people will have not just physical

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manifestations but psychiatric

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manifestations and so dating all the way

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back to 1978 I was developing this

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theory of somatotype Oh origin of

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disease now we're always taught

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psychosomatic and also did was an

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opposite day and I turn it around and

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I've been able to prove it

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disease and even mental emotional and

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psychiatric manifestations can have

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their sole root in the physical so it's

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not mental there's not anything wrong

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with your head there's something wrong

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with your body and it's manifesting

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through the way you present the warmth

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it could be anywhere in your body

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literally any organ any tissue and

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sometimes life with the filarial worms

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and the Borrelia it can literally be in

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your brain so what I want to do with

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that then and this is important I mean

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this is one of the biggest concepts that

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we have to get out today is Annette was

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not only having physical problems with

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her allergies and all that she actually

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got on to things like antidepressants

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and anti-anxiety drugs and if she could

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pick up the narrative there I'm going to

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blow the lid off of what all that means

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that sounds great perfect

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okay I'm married very young and had a

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child at the age of 18 and my

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obstetrician

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at the age of 18 after having a child

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prescribed for me Librium which was kind

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of a precursor to benzodiazepines valium

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ativan

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xanax all of those type drugs he said

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you know being a young new mother you

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might be overwhelmed somedays so take

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this anti-anxiety drug to help you well

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I mean this was 1969 50 years ago and

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doctors were our friends doctors were

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gods doctors were wonderful people you

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know so you'd take the drug that the

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doctor gives you

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and then once valium became the drug of

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choice and given out like candy I was

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given valium and it's something that

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I've had on hand since I was 18 years

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old I didn't take it every day but I had

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it around in case I had a bad day and

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then 15 years ago I had a really bad

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family upheaval I wanted to go talk to

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the psychologist to talk through the

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pain and the issues but insurance

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doesn't pay for psychologists usually so

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they sent me to a psychiatrist and

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that's because the psychiatrist can

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prescribe drugs correct correct yes

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they're really bad at talking but

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they're really good at handing out

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prescriptions and I was put on effexor

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which is a norepinephrine serotonin

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reuptake inhibitor and NSRI

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and they say they're not addictive and

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they're not addictive in the way like

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opium is addictive but you still become

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dependent on them because getting off of

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them is really really difficult because

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having the serotonin readily available

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it prevents it from reuptake abreu so

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that it's always available to the brain

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so trying to get off of it and reducing

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the amount of serotonin in the brain

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causes what is called brain zaps the

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brain has been first working again and

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trying to grab hold of the serotonin

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rather than it always being there at the

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ready for the brain to use and these

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brain zaps they drive you crazy

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I mean it's really really difficult to

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get off of these drugs because of those

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brain zaps and people just they'll try

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and they'll give up but I never found

519
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that the antidepressants didn't help me

520
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I wasn't depressed I was angry I was

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upset so I tried several times to get

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off of them without success

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I'd get to a certain point and the

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brains apps would just become too

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overwhelming to deal with hmm

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but after the 15 year upheaval

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and taking the antidepressants valium

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became a big problem I don't know if you

529
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remember the movie I'm dancing as fast

530
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as I can because they discovered how

531
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addictive valium was mmm so they created

532
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more benzos that were supposed to be

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less addictive and one of the next

534
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benzos they created was at a van which

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was supposed to be less addictive and

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less harmful but these drugs have

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half-lives and Valium has a very long

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half-life and so it stays in your body a

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00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:56,450
long time ativan has a very short

540
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half-life and only stays in your body

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maybe 24 hours

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and I only took ativan at night to help

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me sleep along with ambien so I mean I

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was unlike a triple cocktail of really

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bad pharmaceuticals that no one should

546
00:25:20,290 --> 00:25:17,380
take because they're just so harmful

547
00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:20,300
what had happened I started withdrawing

548
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:24,260
from all of my hobbies everything that I

549
00:25:30,490 --> 00:25:27,200
enjoyed I became agoraphobic I hardly

550
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:30,500
left the house life just held nothing

551
00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:33,500
for me anymore I didn't know what was

552
00:25:39,310 --> 00:25:36,680
wrong I didn't discuss it with anyone

553
00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:39,320
but Patrick because I felt no one would

554
00:25:48,019 --> 00:25:42,990
understand or would think I was crazy

555
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:48,029
and this went on for close to a year

556
00:25:51,769 --> 00:25:49,710
and that was when I decided okay I'm

557
00:25:54,780 --> 00:25:51,779
going to get off the antidepressants I

558
00:25:57,270 --> 00:25:54,790
thought that was the problem

559
00:25:58,919 --> 00:25:57,280
it took a long time I tapered very very

560
00:26:02,340 --> 00:25:58,929
slowly and that's something that's very

561
00:26:05,159 --> 00:26:02,350
important for people to understand never

562
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:05,169
ever go cold turkey off of any of these

563
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:07,210
pharmaceutical drugs because you caused

564
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:10,210
you to want to kill yourself i tapered

565
00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:12,610
very very slowly off of these it took me

566
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,440
probably close to nine months but

567
00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:18,880
unfortunately that didn't solve my

568
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:21,790
agoraphobia my apathy my lack of

569
00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:24,250
motivation

570
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:27,429
and I was on the phone with Patrick and

571
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:29,230
he said uh Ned I don't think you're

572
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:33,039
gonna fill yourself again until you get

573
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:36,610
off the ativan they benzodiazepine

574
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:39,070
and I said Patrick I just don't see how

575
00:26:43,630 --> 00:26:41,049
I can do that right now I just got off

576
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:43,640
of the antidepressants

577
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:46,490
and he said well sounds like addiction

578
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,310
to me

579
00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:50,320
and I'd always felt that I had a

580
00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:52,390
dependence on these drugs but I never

581
00:26:58,140 --> 00:26:55,870
felt addicted and addicted is really a

582
00:27:02,040 --> 00:26:58,150
trigger for me because I had a son that

583
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:02,050
was a drug addict and a couple of days

584
00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:06,640
later that statement just really upset

585
00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:08,620
me and I got on the internet and started

586
00:27:39,140 --> 00:27:11,260
researching and I discovered this

587
00:27:46,350 --> 00:27:43,110
from Anna van because I wasn't taking

588
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:46,360
enough of it I was only taking it at

589
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,170
night

590
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:50,240
and I had thrown myself into withdrawal

591
00:27:56,980 --> 00:27:53,770
and all of the symptoms the agoraphobia

592
00:27:59,680 --> 00:27:56,990
the lack of motivation the withdrawal

593
00:28:03,700 --> 00:27:59,690
from hobbies and things that I used to

594
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:03,710
enjoy I stopped cooking for myself all

595
00:28:12,550 --> 00:28:07,510
of these things fit what happened and

596
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:12,560
the solution per the ashton method is to

597
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:15,890
switch from the short half-life ativan

598
00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:19,090
which the generic name is lorazepam

599
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:23,150
switch back to valium which the generic

600
00:28:33,010 --> 00:28:27,910
name is diazepam and taper from there

601
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:33,020
luckily I had a very caring primary care

602
00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:37,510
physician I sent her this information

603
00:28:44,610 --> 00:28:41,260
and she agreed to work with me so I saw

604
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:44,620
her mid-april and so she wrote the

605
00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:47,530
prescription out for valium their taper

606
00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:50,590
schedules on the ash and on the benzo

607
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:54,100
the UK dot org website that tell you how

608
00:29:00,090 --> 00:28:57,970
to slowly taper also I was thinking like

609
00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:00,100
two to three milligrams of ativan at

610
00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:03,430
night I didn't realize that one

611
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:07,150
milligram of ativan was equivalent to

612
00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:11,290
ten milligrams of Valium hmm so when the

613
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:14,590
doctor switched me over she she gave me

614
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:17,490
30 milligrams of Valium a day to take

615
00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:21,570
well my body they react very differently

616
00:29:27,540 --> 00:29:24,700
ativan is very subtle I never felt

617
00:29:30,540 --> 00:29:27,550
sleepy or I mean like if I took it

618
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:30,550
during the day I never felt altered but

619
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:33,880
when I started taking valium again it

620
00:29:39,420 --> 00:29:36,190
altered me considerably 10 milligrams

621
00:29:43,710 --> 00:29:39,430
made me feel like a drunk person so it

622
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:43,720
was very easy to taper quite quickly so

623
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:48,640
I started mid-april and by June I was

624
00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:50,890
back to myself again in fact I felt

625
00:29:58,650 --> 00:29:54,550
better than I felt in ages my motivation

626
00:30:02,190 --> 00:29:58,660
was back life became meaningful again I

627
00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:02,200
started getting out more I started back

628
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:05,620
in on my research my quote conspiracy

629
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:08,670
theory stuff that I love so much hmm and

630
00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:12,510
contacted family and I felt fantastic

631
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,140
but I had an old back injury from an

632
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:19,120
auto accident from when I was a teenager

633
00:30:24,750 --> 00:30:21,790
I had a bad whiplash

634
00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:24,760
and from time to time over the years

635
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:27,580
even though I was 16 when that happened

636
00:30:34,530 --> 00:30:31,530
I would have really bad back problems

637
00:30:36,770 --> 00:30:34,540
but I could go and get a massage or two

638
00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:36,780
and it would resolve it for months

639
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:40,150
well the backache just got worse and

640
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:43,720
worse and I called my former massage

641
00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:47,050
therapist who comes to the house I had

642
00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:50,740
eight massages in the timeframe of about

643
00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:52,950
two months

644
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:54,630
and the back pain just got worse and

645
00:30:59,790 --> 00:30:56,970
worse it didn't help in fact it was

646
00:31:01,530 --> 00:30:59,800
probably making things worse

647
00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:01,540
now let's before I had the lupus

648
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:04,390
diagnosis and so let me interrupt here

649
00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:08,110
for a second what we see from a net

650
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:11,190
story is that she was on drugs like

651
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:13,330
antihistamines for 40 years it didn't

652
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:16,330
help all she wanted was counseling and

653
00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:18,510
she was given drugs antidepressants

654
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:21,880
anti-anxiety and they didn't help in

655
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:25,030
fact they not only addicted her under

656
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:28,390
listed as non-addictive she couldn't get

657
00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:30,310
off of the damn things because they

658
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:32,260
almost had a mind of their own they have

659
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:35,650
a way of regulating receptor sites in

660
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:38,170
the brain so even if you're flooded with

661
00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:41,380
serotonin if you have more receptor

662
00:31:46,830 --> 00:31:43,990
sites than you have serotonin even

663
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:46,840
during the paper you have to genetically

664
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:49,360
down regulate those receptor sites or

665
00:31:55,470 --> 00:31:51,910
you are going to feel depressed even it

666
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:55,480
still coming off the and I call them

667
00:32:02,190 --> 00:31:58,480
smart drugs it's almost as if the drug

668
00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:02,200
has methods and an intent to keep the

669
00:32:07,950 --> 00:32:05,320
person hooked on that drug so she was

670
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:07,960
really deep into the talons of the

671
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:12,310
pharmaceutical capture and she was doing

672
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:15,030
her best effort to get away from it and

673
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:17,770
one of the things I've seen across the

674
00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:20,740
board everybody that I work with is the

675
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:24,100
more help you get over time the more you

676
00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:28,090
actively and even unconsciously pursue

677
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:31,390
helpful behaviors so although I had

678
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:33,720
always encouraged Annette to get off of

679
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:38,200
pharmaceuticals it was her personal

680
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:38,890
accident

681
00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:45,310
get off of the NSR eyes and then that's

682
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:46,990
when we had the conversation where I

683
00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:49,540
said hmm you know you really need to get

684
00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:52,360
off of everything and I said it sounded

685
00:32:57,090 --> 00:32:54,760
like addiction to me and that changed

686
00:32:59,490 --> 00:32:57,100
her entire perspective so she went out

687
00:33:02,190 --> 00:32:59,500
she did the research again this was all

688
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:02,200
her to prove me wrong I'm not addicted

689
00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:05,290
and she found out as she had indicated

690
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:08,470
that everything she was experiencing was

691
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,130
an artifact of the drug and because she

692
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:13,600
was getting healthy

693
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:16,930
over time she made the decision to get

694
00:33:21,150 --> 00:33:17,950
off the drug

695
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:21,160
well drug doesn't want to let you go and

696
00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:23,230
again they say that they're not

697
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:24,070
addictive

698
00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:28,210
but the ativan was ten times more

699
00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:30,430
powerful than valium

700
00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:33,070
well that recipe for addition right

701
00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:36,340
there and so as she was coming off of

702
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:39,700
these drugs and now here is the biggest

703
00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:44,050
idea that we were mowing in a series on

704
00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:47,860
lupus and Lyme and my video on youtube

705
00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:48,340
called

706
00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:52,120
revolution is that we discovered quite

707
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:55,540
by accident we were just trying to get a

708
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:00,640
net better but in that pursuit and that

709
00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:03,430
had gotten to a really good point in her

710
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:06,820
health and she had said that she had

711
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:10,330
never felt emotionally better in her

712
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:11,250
entire life

713
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:16,470
yet as she was weaning from the

714
00:34:24,390 --> 00:34:18,970
benzodiazepines after getting off the

715
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:24,400
NSR eyes that new physical problems were

716
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:28,480
emerging and even as myself and the red

717
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:30,070
hands were trying to get to the bottom

718
00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:32,650
of it it was really beyond the scope of

719
00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:35,740
our understanding and so she had a

720
00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:38,080
physician probably the only doctor that

721
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:42,190
I've ever known of that was not a white

722
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:45,270
coated assassin and he did the

723
00:34:53,610 --> 00:34:49,270
autoimmunity test that revealed lupus

724
00:34:55,590 --> 00:34:53,620
and this is the big idea right here this

725
00:34:59,490 --> 00:34:55,600
is the saying that you're scooping the

726
00:35:04,610 --> 00:34:59,500
world on Greg is that we discovered

727
00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:04,620
because of this process that all of the

728
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:09,600
antidepressant and anti-anxiety drugs

729
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:13,830
they're all immunosuppressants agents

730
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:15,690
so they're the same thing is like an

731
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:20,610
anti rejection drug hmm so she may have

732
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,980
had and you know we do regressions with

733
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:24,480
people we'll bring them all the way back

734
00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:26,910
to the earliest years when we take a

735
00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:29,550
history and the we you know it's a

736
00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:31,590
collaborative between me and my consoles

737
00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:33,870
we'll go all the way back to like when

738
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:36,300
and that was four years old and she had

739
00:35:42,650 --> 00:35:39,390
a kick in her ear Wow

740
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:42,660
will come forward in time to when she

741
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:46,650
was rescuing a feral cat and she got bit

742
00:35:57,610 --> 00:35:52,800
probably to the bone by a wild cat and

743
00:36:01,160 --> 00:35:57,620
so when did she get Lyme we don't know

744
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:01,170
but we do know that when she got off of

745
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:04,110
the antidepressants started to taper

746
00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:07,200
from the anti-anxiety medications that

747
00:36:12,860 --> 00:36:10,260
all the sudden this disease literally

748
00:36:16,580 --> 00:36:12,870
that had to have always been there

749
00:36:19,850 --> 00:36:16,590
smouldering was finally unmasked and

750
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:19,860
that is the big idea that it doesn't

751
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:22,310
matter what the mental and emotional

752
00:36:27,350 --> 00:36:25,290
impact of these drugs are that's

753
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:27,360
secondary to the fast if they are

754
00:36:33,350 --> 00:36:31,260
purposely immunosuppressant and that

755
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:33,360
means that they can then hide any

756
00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:36,570
disease they want in us and it will be

757
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:38,670
beyond the detection of anybody that

758
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:41,250
doesn't even know the look pool Wow so

759
00:36:47,650 --> 00:36:43,980
her doc I'll let you tell the story he

760
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:47,660
ran a Sjogren's panel on her

761
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:50,960
because she had certain symptoms and it

762
00:36:57,370 --> 00:36:53,930
didn't show up Sjogren's it showed up

763
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:57,380
lupus so in just a jump in here so what

764
00:37:00,970 --> 00:36:58,970
you're saying is these antidepressants

765
00:37:03,130 --> 00:37:00,980
that almost everyone knows someone who's

766
00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:03,140
taken them they're suppressing the

767
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:05,590
immune system to the point that

768
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:07,730
infections that the immune system is

769
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:10,610
keeping at bay maybe for years it allows

770
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:13,760
them to come to the surface now exactly

771
00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:17,030
we'll go with that Tom about your ENT

772
00:37:20,860 --> 00:37:19,220
and how we actually discovered this

773
00:37:24,340 --> 00:37:20,870
because if we didn't have his help we

774
00:37:31,150 --> 00:37:24,350
would have been lost my ENT I discovered

775
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:31,160
him because I had back in 2002 I was

776
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:35,630
diagnosed with thyroid eye disease which

777
00:37:40,030 --> 00:37:38,170
is another autoimmune disease and I have

778
00:37:41,980 --> 00:37:40,040
apologize for interrupting but

779
00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:41,990
autoimmunity because we are going to

780
00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:44,990
jump into that one too right it's a

781
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:50,030
strange disease it's fairly rare and it

782
00:37:56,530 --> 00:37:54,110
attacks the muscles behind the eyes

783
00:38:00,010 --> 00:37:56,540
and it causes them to protrude forward

784
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,020
so your eyes protrude forward my eyes

785
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:02,000
were always my best feature and it

786
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,530
almost destroyed them

787
00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:06,480
I had to wear sunglasses because I

788
00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:08,340
scared small children in grocery stores

789
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:12,150
oh it's supposed to last from 18 months

790
00:38:20,410 --> 00:38:16,490
to maybe three years mine started in

791
00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:20,420
2002 I had to have a thyroidectomy

792
00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:24,750
trying to get my thyroid under control

793
00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:28,619
so I could have additional treatment to

794
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:32,460
my eyes so I had the thyroidectomy in

795
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:37,410
September of 2003 and then shortly after

796
00:38:42,109 --> 00:38:39,690
that I had a series of radiation

797
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:42,119
treatments on my eyes trying to stop the

798
00:38:49,609 --> 00:38:45,650
inflammation but that didn't help me

799
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:49,619
so this disease went on for quite a few

800
00:38:57,010 --> 00:38:54,720
years and I discovered early 2009 that

801
00:39:00,740 --> 00:38:57,020
they were stable enough for me to have

802
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,750
surgery and the surgery is extremely

803
00:39:09,609 --> 00:39:02,640
invasive it's called an orbital

804
00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:09,619
decompression and my ENT and my eye

805
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:12,660
surgeon who's a plastic surgeon orbit

806
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:15,810
specialists went in and what they have

807
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:19,200
to do is they cut little slits at the

808
00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:23,930
outer corner of each eye remove bone at

809
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:28,980
the temple area they water drill it to

810
00:39:34,450 --> 00:39:32,310
scale it down put it back and that way

811
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:34,460
my eyes fall back to a more normal

812
00:39:39,850 --> 00:39:36,890
position

813
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:39,860
it's a very invasive surgery but luckily

814
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,040
the eyes he'll very quickly so it put my

815
00:39:47,410 --> 00:39:45,200
eyes back in a normal position so they

816
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:47,420
didn't bulge and protrude and scare

817
00:39:53,890 --> 00:39:50,960
small children but then I required five

818
00:39:56,050 --> 00:39:53,900
additional surgeries on my eyes so my

819
00:40:00,940 --> 00:39:56,060
sight was proper again I had double

820
00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:00,950
vision I had blurred vision so I had all

821
00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:05,080
of these surgeries between 2009 and 2010

822
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:07,580
can I interrupt here for a second you

823
00:40:14,770 --> 00:40:10,010
got your flow because what I want to

824
00:40:17,770 --> 00:40:14,780
impress on everybody listening is you're

825
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:17,780
not giving a laundry list of well I went

826
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:20,000
through this and I went to that and they

827
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:22,610
seemed to be unrelated within our world

828
00:40:28,450 --> 00:40:25,850
of continuum Annette had just cited that

829
00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:28,460
she had an autoimmune condition and we

830
00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:31,460
are going to tie this autoimmunity to

831
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:35,230
the entire scope of lupus which has Auto

832
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:37,490
antibodies and we're going to tie it

833
00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:39,530
back to Lyme and it's entire

834
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:42,470
constellation of diseases and show that

835
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:45,050
she had Foreman aiding disease that was

836
00:40:53,830 --> 00:40:50,240
related to one singular thread and that

837
00:40:56,410 --> 00:40:53,840
it affected all these systems so it's

838
00:40:59,500 --> 00:40:56,420
not just like okay and I had a thyroid

839
00:41:02,410 --> 00:40:59,510
problem and I had an eye problem and I

840
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:02,420
had depression and I had allergies no it

841
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:05,770
was one thing under one enormous

842
00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:09,680
umbrella and they were all discernible

843
00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:12,780
because I want to emphasize something

844
00:41:17,660 --> 00:41:16,140
and that graduated high school done that

845
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:17,670
help me out here were you the candy

846
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:19,770
striper did you work as a nurse's aide I

847
00:41:25,849 --> 00:41:23,010
was candy stripe and a candy striper and

848
00:41:28,339 --> 00:41:25,859
I bill myself as just a farm boy I went

849
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:28,349
to college twice never graduated I have

850
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:32,720
no degrees and yet we were able to

851
00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:36,930
destroy the entire myth of mainstream

852
00:41:42,589 --> 00:41:39,780
and alternative medicine by showing this

853
00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:42,599
continuum that all of these conditions

854
00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:46,500
were related possibly to one cause that

855
00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:49,380
one cause and you know we have stated

856
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:52,320
earlier in this interview was a military

857
00:41:59,450 --> 00:41:55,710
weapon and that it manifests itself in

858
00:42:01,960 --> 00:41:59,460
multiple ways yet everybody within the

859
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:01,970
medical world alternative or mainstream

860
00:42:08,089 --> 00:42:05,369
they will look at each separate incident

861
00:42:11,570 --> 00:42:08,099
as if they were completely unrelated

862
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,580
right so go ahead and that what was it

863
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:13,440
that your ENT really brought to the

864
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:15,330
table that really like was the aha

865
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:17,400
moment for you guys and connected the

866
00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:20,010
research and that was the testing so

867
00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:22,470
take it up there and that where he did

868
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:26,040
the testing for Bartle antibodies well

869
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,260
one of the first symptoms I had was when

870
00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:30,800
I started off of the antidepressants I

871
00:42:37,249 --> 00:42:34,619
started getting really bad dry mouth

872
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,259
and I had talked to my doctor she didn't

873
00:42:42,099 --> 00:42:39,599
know what was going on I went to the

874
00:42:44,479 --> 00:42:42,109
dentist to see if they could help me

875
00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:44,489
everybody was pretty much like well you

876
00:42:50,209 --> 00:42:47,579
just have dry mouth deal with it but it

877
00:42:53,180 --> 00:42:50,219
kept getting worse he kept changing and

878
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,190
it was really affecting my quality of

879
00:42:58,039 --> 00:42:55,200
life I had trouble eating certain foods

880
00:43:01,339 --> 00:42:58,049
I was creating a lot of mucus in my

881
00:43:06,739 --> 00:43:01,349
mouth even though my mouth was dry I had

882
00:43:08,660 --> 00:43:06,749
a lot of mucus so I contacted my former

883
00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:08,670
ENT and he's not covered under my

884
00:43:15,259 --> 00:43:13,140
insurance and he's so kind and caring he

885
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:15,269
still in the bay area I'm in Sacramento

886
00:43:20,209 --> 00:43:17,430
so it's like a hour-and-a-half drive to

887
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:20,219
get to him he said a net he said I will

888
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:23,940
see you for free which is just unheard

889
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:28,650
of so I went to see him back on August

890
00:43:34,279 --> 00:43:31,410
3rd and he didn't really have any

891
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:34,289
answers for me he did a complete ent

892
00:43:41,569 --> 00:43:37,650
exam endoscopically checking my throat

893
00:43:44,359 --> 00:43:41,579
checking my sinus passages for polyps

894
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:44,369
and you know the whole gamut of an ENT

895
00:43:50,089 --> 00:43:47,640
exam he said I don't really have any

896
00:43:53,259 --> 00:43:50,099
answers for you but he said has anyone

897
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:53,269
ever mentioned to use Sjogren's and

898
00:44:00,289 --> 00:43:56,940
Sjogren's disease is another autoimmune

899
00:44:04,759 --> 00:44:00,299
disease and one of its main symptoms is

900
00:44:08,269 --> 00:44:04,769
dry mouth so he sent me back to my

901
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:08,279
primary care doctor with a list of blood

902
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:11,609
tests to do and it was the Sjogren's

903
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:14,640
test that does several anti-nuclear

904
00:44:21,049 --> 00:44:17,910
antibody testing for quite a few

905
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:21,059
different autoimmune diseases and the

906
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:24,030
one that showed up with lupus

907
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:29,850
a value of 10 is definitive my value was

908
00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:34,850
28 really extreme case of lupus and

909
00:44:41,060 --> 00:44:38,760
that's when we started a research into

910
00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:41,070
what lupus was and it affects everybody

911
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:43,470
differently and it can infect all organ

912
00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:46,770
systems and I can explain that to keep

913
00:44:51,830 --> 00:44:48,900
going to that I can explain everything

914
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:51,840
go ahead so it gave me a starting point

915
00:45:00,100 --> 00:44:55,980
I knew what was wrong but they send you

916
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:00,110
to a Rheumatologist if you have livers

917
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:02,930
so it's put under the umbrella of

918
00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:05,610
Rheumatology which is joints and

919
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:09,750
arthritis right right and everybody that

920
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:13,260
is in Lyme world will understand the

921
00:45:20,140 --> 00:45:16,380
meaning of that instantaneously because

922
00:45:24,650 --> 00:45:20,150
the CDC has committed a crime in

923
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:24,660
defining Lyme as just Borrelia and just

924
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,650
a swollen knee they're calling it lupus

925
00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:30,720
they're calling MS they're calling

926
00:45:36,290 --> 00:45:33,480
Alzheimer's are calling fibromyalgia and

927
00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:36,300
all of these are emerging diseases none

928
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:38,460
of these diseases existed in my

929
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:41,760
grandparents day and during all of our

930
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:45,660
research we discovered the connection to

931
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:48,900
Lyme disease once you hear Lyme and

932
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:52,170
start researching Lyme you find YouTube

933
00:45:59,420 --> 00:45:56,690
after YouTube we found dr. Alan McDonald

934
00:46:02,480 --> 00:45:59,430
YouTube is just full of videos about

935
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:02,490
Lyme disease the stellar ones are Lida

936
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,220
Mad Men the world's foremost expert on

937
00:46:09,260 --> 00:46:07,440
spirochetes but then there's a whole

938
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,270
bunch of people in the veterinary

939
00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:11,760
community because literally the bets are

940
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,520
coming down with Lyme and they're scared

941
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:16,800
and if I said the word scared to death

942
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:18,690
it's like yeah and they're even dying

943
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,630
from it so if I can just interject here

944
00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:24,000
at a moment on that one of the things

945
00:46:30,610 --> 00:46:27,150
that set us off was

946
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:30,620
and that was diagnosed clinically with

947
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:35,280
anti-dna antibodies and I go how the

948
00:46:40,030 --> 00:46:37,740
hell can that be so we started looking

949
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:40,040
at it and what I want to offer to you

950
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:41,310
Greg

951
00:46:46,490 --> 00:46:43,650
and your listeners is if anybody needs

952
00:46:49,550 --> 00:46:46,500
supporting material of course I did a

953
00:46:52,090 --> 00:46:49,560
YouTube on this called revolution but if

954
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:52,100
you need it in print if you need

955
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:53,310
citations

956
00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:56,010
I will provide them to anybody that asks

957
00:47:02,770 --> 00:46:59,370
but we found the actual smoking gun

958
00:47:05,410 --> 00:47:02,780
clinical evidence that number one the

959
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:05,420
antidepressants and anti-anxiety s were

960
00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:07,260
immunosuppressant that means that she

961
00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:10,020
was smoldering with this disease for who

962
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:12,840
knows how long she had always had it but

963
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:16,140
it never manifested physically and then

964
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:18,810
he come up to the fact that it was an

965
00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:21,930
autoimmune condition and anti DNA

966
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:24,390
antibody and we happened to destroy

967
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:28,530
these myths because you can't be immune

968
00:47:36,590 --> 00:47:33,210
to your own DNA hmm so when you find out

969
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:36,600
that that is set in stone it's like then

970
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:41,490
what DNA has this antibody been formed

971
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:45,930
to and that's a very pregnant question

972
00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:48,210
because we are being injected with

973
00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:51,030
vaccines that have freeform DNA and RNA

974
00:47:57,020 --> 00:47:54,540
from countless organisms right

975
00:48:00,110 --> 00:47:57,030
it can't be filtered out it will always

976
00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:00,120
be in there so we're the antibodies from

977
00:48:07,610 --> 00:48:04,470
a vaccine or were they provoked by a

978
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:07,620
tick bite and all the sequela that

979
00:48:13,340 --> 00:48:10,770
happens from that you can't be immune to

980
00:48:17,810 --> 00:48:13,350
your own DNA and one of the reasons is

981
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:17,820
because these antibodies can't get into

982
00:48:24,130 --> 00:48:21,330
your own cell so if they can't get into

983
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:24,140
your own cells and how can you call

984
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,450
auto-immunity because the antibodies

985
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:29,520
would have to grab onto something and

986
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:32,310
invite white blood cells or even red

987
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:34,470
blood cells because they're voracious to

988
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:36,930
destroy it and so where is this

989
00:48:40,839 --> 00:48:39,660
destruction happening and why well this

990
00:48:44,799 --> 00:48:40,849
is the amazed

991
00:48:48,210 --> 00:48:44,809
part is when we went looking at lupus

992
00:48:51,099 --> 00:48:48,220
the first place that I went to was my

993
00:48:54,249 --> 00:48:51,109
pathophysiology book by Wilson and price

994
00:48:56,979 --> 00:48:54,259
that takes us all the way back to 2008

995
00:48:59,680 --> 00:48:56,989
that was the catalyst for me

996
00:49:02,819 --> 00:48:59,690
understanding serum sickness so this

997
00:49:07,539 --> 00:49:02,829
very book that started my media career

998
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:07,549
10 years ago brought a full circle from

999
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:10,570
lupus to Lyme

1000
00:49:18,810 --> 00:49:14,800
and it showed us that the process of

1001
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:18,820
destruction in autoimmunity is exactly

1002
00:49:23,340 --> 00:49:20,830
what is serum sickness they are

1003
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:23,350
circulating immune complexes and you

1004
00:49:28,290 --> 00:49:24,790
know I'm using big language with

1005
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:28,300
breakdown it would be an antigen which

1006
00:49:31,950 --> 00:49:29,890
means against life something that

1007
00:49:34,110 --> 00:49:31,960
doesn't belong in your body and an

1008
00:49:38,610 --> 00:49:34,120
antibody which is something that is

1009
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:38,620
created by your body to bind to that so

1010
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:43,850
that it can be broken down and excreted

1011
00:49:48,490 --> 00:49:45,680
they're not breaking down they're

1012
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,500
actually sticking on to cells and then

1013
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:50,480
the body comes by and goes oh look at

1014
00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:52,610
that mess I better burn that out the

1015
00:49:57,550 --> 00:49:54,920
body has only one trick and it's the

1016
00:49:59,620 --> 00:49:57,560
burst oxygen it's tough so when it

1017
00:50:01,930 --> 00:49:59,630
bursts oxygen at this thing that it says

1018
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:01,940
you don't belong here you can have

1019
00:50:07,810 --> 00:50:04,430
collateral damage and so then you get

1020
00:50:11,860 --> 00:50:07,820
tissue damage so a lot of people with

1021
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,870
lupus have lupus nephritis well that's

1022
00:50:16,570 --> 00:50:13,520
cause because you've got these

1023
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:16,580
circulating immune complexes embedded in

1024
00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:20,000
your kidney tubules your immune system

1025
00:50:24,130 --> 00:50:21,920
goes hey that doesn't belong there and

1026
00:50:25,780 --> 00:50:24,140
it starts just shooting at random and

1027
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:25,790
next thing you know your kidneys are

1028
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:28,850
destroyed so we have just right now

1029
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:31,520
destroyed a bunch of myth but this is

1030
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:34,010
how we deconstructed the connection with

1031
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,130
lupus and lime from my pathophysiology

1032
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:38,880
book

1033
00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:42,960
it says of the 11 things that you can

1034
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:46,500
tell whether or not you got Lyme that it

1035
00:50:53,710 --> 00:50:49,680
is an immunological disorder a positive

1036
00:50:59,240 --> 00:50:53,720
lupus erythematosus le cell test a

1037
00:51:03,640 --> 00:50:59,250
positive anti DNA test an anti FM test

1038
00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:03,650
or here we go a false positive

1039
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:09,380
serological tests for syphilis that

1040
00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:13,290
single sentence is what put us on the

1041
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:15,840
road bear in mind we're talking about

1042
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:19,050
lupus and that was clinically diagnosed

1043
00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:23,250
as having anti-dna antibodies so she met

1044
00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:25,500
the criteria they were calling it lupus

1045
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:27,900
but if you can get a false test for

1046
00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:28,770
syphilis

1047
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:35,160
is Borrelia falsely labeled as line

1048
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:37,290
because lyme can be like eleven

1049
00:51:43,310 --> 00:51:40,170
different things Borrelia is a

1050
00:51:46,490 --> 00:51:43,320
spirochete that put us on the trail and

1051
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:46,500
then here we go this is what annette has

1052
00:51:53,330 --> 00:51:49,290
been leading up to

1053
00:51:55,850 --> 00:51:53,340
they have diseases that have names and

1054
00:51:58,370 --> 00:51:55,860
when you look up those diseases that go

1055
00:52:00,800 --> 00:51:58,380
well this is the disease this is how it

1056
00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:00,810
progresses but we don't know what causes

1057
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:04,140
it why because they're covering up for a

1058
00:52:10,070 --> 00:52:06,900
world war two bio weapon it's a cover-up

1059
00:52:12,140 --> 00:52:10,080
this is a military operation so when you

1060
00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:12,150
have things and let me do the laundry

1061
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:13,950
list for you I'll do it really quick

1062
00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:18,640
I'll tell you what comes in tick spit

1063
00:52:25,310 --> 00:52:21,790
this comes from like we said earlier the

1064
00:52:28,290 --> 00:52:25,320
filarial worms that are the taxis for

1065
00:52:32,820 --> 00:52:28,300
Borrelia which are spirochetes which

1066
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:32,830
that's the same file of syphilis then

1067
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:34,750
you have Bartonella which is cat scratch

1068
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:37,570
fever that can get into your red blood

1069
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:40,510
cells and it eats collagen and it makes

1070
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:43,690
biofilm then what I call northern

1071
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:46,960
malaria of Babesia because you know you

1072
00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:49,030
got your tropical malaria and everybody

1073
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:50,920
knows that you know you get the shivers

1074
00:52:54,030 --> 00:52:52,480
and shakes and you got to take quinine

1075
00:52:56,310 --> 00:52:54,040
intercepting and you know you never

1076
00:52:58,890 --> 00:52:56,320
really get over it gracefully you might

1077
00:53:01,500 --> 00:52:58,900
die from it that can infect red blood

1078
00:53:02,970 --> 00:53:01,510
cells and if you take the magnesium that

1079
00:53:05,340 --> 00:53:02,980
people are pushing like used-car

1080
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:05,350
salesmen and you get night sweats at

1081
00:53:11,340 --> 00:53:08,500
night you might have Babesia so this

1082
00:53:14,130 --> 00:53:11,350
stuff crosses over on so many threshold

1083
00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:14,140
and hold on because I'm making a point

1084
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:16,750
with this also in ticks that you can add

1085
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:19,180
air Licio which is a Rickettsia and a

1086
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:21,820
plasma that's a bacteria and that you

1087
00:53:25,530 --> 00:53:23,950
can just get from eating hamburger that

1088
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:25,540
they sell in north america that came

1089
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:28,210
from south america and along with all

1090
00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:30,730
this stuff this is tics bit so it's

1091
00:53:35,790 --> 00:53:33,430
indiscriminate if drawing out your blood

1092
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:35,800
and it's fitting into IVA along with

1093
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:37,030
epstein-barr virus

1094
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:40,210
cytomegalovirus hhv-6 and eight which

1095
00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:43,180
are called roseola and God knows what

1096
00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:46,390
else so the list can go on forever but

1097
00:53:51,330 --> 00:53:48,430
the thing that is is back in the day

1098
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:51,340
when they were labeling and trying to

1099
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:53,740
understand syphilis they called it the

1100
00:54:00,200 --> 00:53:56,640
great imitator because the symptoms

1101
00:54:04,350 --> 00:54:00,210
appeared to be like other diseases

1102
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:04,360
they're calling Lyme and only

1103
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:07,690
implicating the spirochete Borrelia the

1104
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:10,450
great imitator which of course and here

1105
00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:12,250
we go again Greg this is one of the

1106
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:14,350
biggest scoops in medicine and

1107
00:54:19,650 --> 00:54:16,210
alternative medicine that's one of the

1108
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:19,660
biggest lies going because it's not just

1109
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:21,490
Borrelia

1110
00:54:26,099 --> 00:54:23,920
I just gave you a handful of diseases

1111
00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:26,109
literal diseases that come in with ticks

1112
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:28,750
that and every one of them causes a

1113
00:54:34,589 --> 00:54:32,079
discrete physiological disruption of the

1114
00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:34,599
body so everything they're saying well

1115
00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:36,790
here's your disease here's the name and

1116
00:54:40,799 --> 00:54:38,920
we don't know what causes it is because

1117
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:40,809
it's a cover-up they know exactly what

1118
00:54:46,380 --> 00:54:43,390
causes it and they don't want you to

1119
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,390
know and so Lyme is not the great

1120
00:54:51,180 --> 00:54:48,880
imitator line is the great cover-up

1121
00:54:54,089 --> 00:54:51,190
because their labeling only Borrelia

1122
00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:54,099
ignoring everything else and all these

1123
00:55:01,140 --> 00:54:57,569
modern diseases can be tracked back to

1124
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:01,150
not just a tick bite so here's the other

1125
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:03,970
big thing there's overwhelming evidence

1126
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:08,650
that anybody that has Lyme is now a

1127
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:11,530
carrier and you can transmit it by any

1128
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:14,530
body fluid any body fluid it is a

1129
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:17,410
communicable disease and so the figures

1130
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:19,270
that you guys were talking about earlier

1131
00:55:24,059 --> 00:55:21,010
where it could be upwards of nine

1132
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:24,069
hundred thousand people a year showing

1133
00:55:29,250 --> 00:55:27,010
up with this condition let's just round

1134
00:55:34,589 --> 00:55:29,260
it up to a million or more mm-hmm

1135
00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:34,599
it is a contagious military weapon right

1136
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:36,670
and so I did want to talk about that a

1137
00:55:41,099 --> 00:55:39,010
little bit because the conspiracy is

1138
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:41,109
that Lyme disease came from the

1139
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:45,369
bioweapons lab on Plum Island and I just

1140
00:55:47,970 --> 00:55:46,569
wanted to talk about that a little more

1141
00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:47,980
before we get into the second half of

1142
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:49,990
the show but Annette you sent me a

1143
00:55:54,450 --> 00:55:52,089
little video regarding this connection

1144
00:55:56,609 --> 00:55:54,460
between the Plum Island facility and

1145
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:56,619
Lyme and it they talked about a few

1146
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:00,400
things first the initial case can be

1147
00:56:04,890 --> 00:56:02,950
tracked to a tick bite in the woods

1148
00:56:06,980 --> 00:56:04,900
right on the other side of the coast

1149
00:56:10,260 --> 00:56:06,990
just nine miles from the facility so

1150
00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:10,270
proximity is in play but 90% of the

1151
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:12,460
cases are from States in the New England

1152
00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:15,670
area the history of Plum Island bio

1153
00:56:19,859 --> 00:56:18,700
warfare goes back to World War Two and

1154
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:19,869
Project Paperclip

1155
00:56:23,819 --> 00:56:21,700
there have been whistleblowers

1156
00:56:26,839 --> 00:56:23,829
scientists that have said yes we release

1157
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:26,849
some altered ticks into the wild and

1158
00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:30,730
also apparently 60% of chronic Lyme

1159
00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:32,950
patients are also infected with several

1160
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:35,260
strains of something called mycoplasma

1161
00:56:41,490 --> 00:56:38,640
ESMA including a strain of micro plasma

1162
00:56:43,950 --> 00:56:41,500
ferment ants or something like that but

1163
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:43,960
if you look that up its patented by the

1164
00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:47,410
US Army apparently so there are a lot of

1165
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,900
leads that suggest this isn't natural

1166
00:56:54,090 --> 00:56:51,760
but okay people might be listening to

1167
00:56:55,620 --> 00:56:54,100
say well yeah I mean it looks like a lot

1168
00:56:56,790 --> 00:56:55,630
of bad things can happen from a tick

1169
00:56:59,250 --> 00:56:56,800
bite but what are you supposed to do

1170
00:57:00,990 --> 00:56:59,260
ticks are out there can we make a bit

1171
00:57:02,370 --> 00:57:01,000
there anything else to say to make the

1172
00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:02,380
case that this isn't just something

1173
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:05,640
that's in natural ticks pit that this is

1174
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:09,610
engineered let's take a look at just the

1175
00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:12,190
spirochete because that's what everybody

1176
00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:15,670
focuses on so they say okay Borrelia is

1177
00:57:21,330 --> 00:57:18,070
a spirochete just like syphilis and it's

1178
00:57:24,990 --> 00:57:21,340
like really okay let's take a look at

1179
00:57:28,110 --> 00:57:25,000
what's called the homology which means

1180
00:57:32,730 --> 00:57:28,120
what is similar in the genetic makeup of

1181
00:57:34,530 --> 00:57:32,740
syphilis compared to Borrelia and so

1182
00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:34,540
there's weird things going on in

1183
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:37,420
bacteria they can have a nucleus where

1184
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:41,110
typically the DNA is stored and the

1185
00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:45,370
nuclear DNA of Borrelia has only 46

1186
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:48,550
percent homology with syphilis so it's

1187
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:51,910
not even halfway like it okay that

1188
00:57:56,340 --> 00:57:54,310
brings up a red flag to begin with but

1189
00:58:01,130 --> 00:57:56,350
the thing that puts it over the edge is

1190
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:01,140
this crazy critter has three membrane

1191
00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:03,910
basically I look at it as a blade of

1192
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:06,580
armour so if I was going to create a bug

1193
00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:09,250
in the laboratory I would make it into

1194
00:58:14,850 --> 00:58:12,070
one tough little son of a gun and so

1195
00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:14,860
it's got three membranes protecting it

1196
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,000
and then inside our plasmid so those are

1197
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:22,000
circular DNA and those are highly

1198
00:58:30,930 --> 00:58:27,370
infectious and those things have 90% of

1199
00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:30,940
their genetic makeup that is comparable

1200
00:58:38,580 --> 00:58:35,740
to no other life form on the planet

1201
00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:38,590
and so a lot of the work that I do Greg

1202
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:42,820
is synthesis and so without being able

1203
00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:45,310
to say oh yeah and there's a patent for

1204
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:47,380
this tracing all the way back to Plum

1205
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:49,330
Island where they made these plasmids

1206
00:58:54,340 --> 00:58:52,330
you know some smoking gun like that by

1207
00:58:57,790 --> 00:58:54,350
inference

1208
00:59:00,340 --> 00:58:57,800
when you have something so completely

1209
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:00,350
poor and so completely unknown that 90%

1210
00:59:06,670 --> 00:59:04,370
of it doesn't even match any known life

1211
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:06,680
form on the planet that just screams to

1212
00:59:12,220 --> 00:59:09,770
me of laboratory created bug and then

1213
00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:12,230
before at midnight tonight if you order

1214
00:59:17,710 --> 00:59:15,470
now you also get fungal antigens that

1215
00:59:20,410 --> 00:59:17,720
are presented on the outer surface

1216
00:59:26,770 --> 00:59:20,420
proteins so the lime people will know

1217
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:26,780
them as OSP off pay off Biasi what is

1218
00:59:32,590 --> 00:59:30,410
aid spirochetes so it's not technically

1219
00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:32,600
a bacteria it's lumped in with bacteria

1220
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:35,870
but it's it's own phyla what the heck is

1221
00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:38,720
that doing with fungal antigens on its

1222
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:42,260
surface that to me speak of like the

1223
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:47,450
most bristling armed bioweapon that

1224
00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:50,330
anybody could create in their wildest

1225
00:59:57,490 --> 00:59:53,830
imagination another large problem

1226
01:00:02,380 --> 00:59:57,500
listening to dr. McDonald there are over

1227
01:00:06,490 --> 01:00:02,390
a hundred varieties of brown it's a

1228
01:00:09,340 --> 01:00:06,500
worldwide health problem cause it's

1229
01:00:11,890 --> 01:00:09,350
kinda Keable tape sitting at God the

1230
01:00:14,140 --> 01:00:11,900
equation if you kiss a pretty girl if

1231
01:00:16,690 --> 01:00:14,150
you have sex if you get a blood

1232
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:16,700
transfusion if somebody sneezes on you

1233
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:20,690
sweats on you whatever you can get Lyme

1234
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,290
hmm yeah dr. McDonald I've watched

1235
01:00:31,450 --> 01:00:26,960
numerous of his lectures and he has one

1236
01:00:35,020 --> 01:00:31,460
in the UK because in the UK there are

1237
01:00:37,450 --> 01:00:35,030
health clinics and people go to these

1238
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:37,460
clinics and there are signs in the

1239
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:40,690
window saying if you are here for a Lyme

1240
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:44,450
diagnosis go elsewhere we do not know

1241
01:00:51,530 --> 01:00:48,930
enough about the disease to assist you

1242
01:00:54,050 --> 01:00:51,540
and let's destroy that because I'm a

1243
01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:54,060
farm boy and that is a high school

1244
01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:56,310
graduate and look at what we've done and

1245
01:01:01,760 --> 01:00:59,220
you tell me a doctor that's their chosen

1246
01:01:04,220 --> 01:01:01,770
profession they've got all of the power

1247
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:04,230
of science behind them and they're

1248
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,330
pushing people away that means they're

1249
01:01:12,380 --> 01:01:08,400
covering up for a bio weapon that they

1250
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:12,390
do not want exposed right that's

1251
01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:14,490
something that comes up a lot for me too

1252
01:01:19,310 --> 01:01:16,710
is I ask a lot of guests like hey I mean

1253
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:19,320
if you know this how can we say the

1254
01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:21,330
system is ignorant there's just no way

1255
01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:23,190
and that's kind of across the board with

1256
01:01:28,490 --> 01:01:26,220
GMOs glice of fate all kinds of issues

1257
01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:28,500
it's like if these researchers are able

1258
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:30,180
to put it together you think Monsanto

1259
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:32,160
doesn't know you think they're ignorant

1260
01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:34,070
of what's going on I mean we get exactly

1261
01:01:38,510 --> 01:01:36,780
what they want us to have that's the

1262
01:01:40,250 --> 01:01:38,520
same with the school system it doesn't

1263
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:40,260
just suck because nobody has good ideas

1264
01:01:45,110 --> 01:01:42,480
it sucks because they want it to suck

1265
01:01:47,390 --> 01:01:45,120
and the other only other thing I wanted

1266
01:01:50,780 --> 01:01:47,400
to say is with the net story that

1267
01:01:52,430 --> 01:01:50,790
component that they refused to give the

1268
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:52,440
test they didn't want to give the test

1269
01:01:56,990 --> 01:01:55,170
that comes up time and time again a net

1270
01:01:59,360 --> 01:01:57,000
you recommended I watch this documentary

1271
01:02:01,610 --> 01:01:59,370
about Lyme victims called under our skin

1272
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:01,620
it is free on Amazon Prime and that

1273
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:04,230
seems to be a part of most of these

1274
01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:06,930
victims stories doctors don't want to

1275
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:08,910
give the tests or they tell people that

1276
01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:11,610
they're crazy or that they're faking for

1277
01:02:17,210 --> 01:02:13,950
attention and it's just deny deny deny

1278
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,220
and so I don't know if a government lab

1279
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:19,200
is responsible in the end but the

1280
01:02:23,690 --> 01:02:21,750
medical system sure acts like it's got

1281
01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:23,700
something to hide here why not just test

1282
01:02:28,340 --> 01:02:25,740
and diagnose like anything else clearly

1283
01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:28,350
there's some reason they don't want us

1284
01:02:34,010 --> 01:02:31,260
to look at Lyme well I was pushed away

1285
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:34,020
from getting additional doctors to help

1286
01:02:39,770 --> 01:02:37,170
me I was in the Sutter system here in

1287
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:39,780
California that was what my insurance

1288
01:02:43,810 --> 01:02:41,330
covered

1289
01:02:45,370 --> 01:02:43,820
and they wanted to send me to a

1290
01:02:48,610 --> 01:02:45,380
Rheumatologist

1291
01:02:50,530 --> 01:02:48,620
there was only one rheumatologist in the

1292
01:02:53,740 --> 01:02:50,540
Sutter system accepting new patients

1293
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:53,750
he's 71 years old and he would not

1294
01:02:59,320 --> 01:02:57,050
accept me as a patient I mentioned lime

1295
01:03:02,320 --> 01:02:59,330
and so my doctor said well let me send

1296
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:02,330
you to an infectious disease doctor none

1297
01:03:06,220 --> 01:03:04,130
of the doctors would accept me as a

1298
01:03:09,070 --> 01:03:06,230
patient because they didn't know enough

1299
01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:09,080
about lime to help me you need a lime

1300
01:03:15,070 --> 01:03:13,280
literate doctor and I was given a list

1301
01:03:19,660 --> 01:03:15,080
of those and they're all so far away

1302
01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:19,670
it's just too far away to go and they're

1303
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:21,440
being attacked as well according to this

1304
01:03:25,060 --> 01:03:23,450
documentary and it's coming from the

1305
01:03:26,830 --> 01:03:25,070
insurance companies because the

1306
01:03:29,590 --> 01:03:26,840
insurance companies control which

1307
01:03:32,260 --> 01:03:29,600
doctors we see so if they quarantine

1308
01:03:33,970 --> 01:03:32,270
away Lyme literate doctors who are like

1309
01:03:36,220 --> 01:03:33,980
hey we need to treat this and instead

1310
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,230
they go with doctors who say oh it's

1311
01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:38,240
either one of these other things it's

1312
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:40,160
going to be very expensive lifelong

1313
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:42,770
treatments that's what the doctors in

1314
01:03:47,830 --> 01:03:45,920
Big Pharma wants but the insurance

1315
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:47,840
companies they want these doctors to say

1316
01:03:52,270 --> 01:03:49,520
oh don't worry about it because the

1317
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:52,280
cheaper the doctor the more likely

1318
01:03:55,810 --> 01:03:53,330
they're going to be in that insurance

1319
01:04:00,190 --> 01:03:55,820
Network and that's a dirty trick thank

1320
01:04:02,650 --> 01:04:00,200
capitalism for that man so we really did

1321
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:02,660
cover just a great deal of things today

1322
01:04:09,580 --> 01:04:06,250
surrounding Lyme autoimmune issues

1323
01:04:12,370 --> 01:04:09,590
antidepressants antibiotics antioxidants

1324
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:12,380
is there any other information to throw

1325
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:14,690
out there for people to kind of bring it

1326
01:04:19,330 --> 01:04:16,720
all full circle and take us home

1327
01:04:21,460 --> 01:04:19,340
there's so much more to talk about it's

1328
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:21,470
going to need another show we'd even get

1329
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:24,410
into the infectious disease Society of

1330
01:04:31,630 --> 01:04:27,730
America and all of the harm they've done

1331
01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:31,640
there was 14 doctors on a panel that

1332
01:04:40,090 --> 01:04:35,030
made the rules for treatment of Lyme

1333
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:40,100
disease they missed one time and kind of

1334
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:43,370
disbanded but they found that nine of

1335
01:04:49,090 --> 01:04:46,400
them are making money off of the Lyme

1336
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:49,100
issue they're working for the insurance

1337
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:53,930
agencies to prevent long-term treatment

1338
01:05:01,200 --> 01:04:57,200
in the documentary under our skin it

1339
01:05:05,500 --> 01:05:01,210
takes three years of doxycycline

1340
01:05:08,140 --> 01:05:05,510
treatment with a PICC line in place to

1341
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:08,150
get any result if you watch the

1342
01:05:11,859 --> 01:05:10,010
documentary those couple of people they

1343
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:11,869
were on those antibiotics for three

1344
01:05:14,740 --> 01:05:13,730
years before they started feeling better

1345
01:05:16,420 --> 01:05:14,750
hmm

1346
01:05:19,210 --> 01:05:16,430
and the people were the insurance

1347
01:05:23,140 --> 01:05:19,220
companies drop them because they said

1348
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:23,150
that you shouldn't attend to 15-day

1349
01:05:27,940 --> 01:05:26,089
course should be enough when they know

1350
01:05:31,059 --> 01:05:27,950
that it takes over a year to treat

1351
01:05:34,750 --> 01:05:31,069
tuberculosis but they're trying to limit

1352
01:05:38,319 --> 01:05:34,760
treatment for Lyme disease and they're

1353
01:05:41,289 --> 01:05:38,329
making money in the process by working

1354
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:41,299
for the insurance companies there used

1355
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:43,910
to be a law where researchers shared

1356
01:05:48,279 --> 01:05:46,880
their information and there was 1980 law

1357
01:05:50,289 --> 01:05:48,289
that went into effect where they don't

1358
01:05:52,329 --> 01:05:50,299
longer had to share their information so

1359
01:05:55,089 --> 01:05:52,339
these researchers were making money off

1360
01:05:57,849 --> 01:05:55,099
of their research and they weren't

1361
01:05:59,620 --> 01:05:57,859
sharing it with other researchers right

1362
01:06:02,380 --> 01:05:59,630
I think that was when they decided you

1363
01:06:05,319 --> 01:06:02,390
could patent organisms right right it

1364
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:05,329
was all in academia wouldn't it yes like

1365
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:07,130
you know a big research institution at a

1366
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,410
college yes so they were withholding

1367
01:06:14,380 --> 01:06:11,359
their research findings so they could

1368
01:06:17,099 --> 01:06:14,390
make money off of it and things like

1369
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:17,109
treatment for a while it's just so

1370
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,569
multi-faceted I've often wondered you

1371
01:06:25,630 --> 01:06:22,640
know after 9/11 what's the next big

1372
01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:25,640
thing the next big thing was already in

1373
01:06:31,569 --> 01:06:28,940
place and I think it's Lyme disease next

1374
01:06:33,849 --> 01:06:31,579
one so let me give a shout out to these

1375
01:06:39,069 --> 01:06:33,859
ladies that came up with the website

1376
01:06:41,410 --> 01:06:39,079
lime crime CR ym and they can give you

1377
01:06:44,319 --> 01:06:41,420
the entire social political background

1378
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:44,329
on that I'm just going to echo what

1379
01:06:51,609 --> 01:06:47,210
Annette said is that we are facing the

1380
01:06:53,859 --> 01:06:51,619
greatest biological undeclared war that

1381
01:06:56,260 --> 01:06:53,869
I've ever seen because I've been at this

1382
01:06:59,289 --> 01:06:56,270
since the year 2000 I've never seen

1383
01:07:01,630 --> 01:06:59,299
anything like this but we have unmasked

1384
01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:01,640
it and if anybody wants to make history

1385
01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:04,990
by helping us find a solution to that

1386
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:07,369
contactor um

1387
01:07:13,390 --> 01:07:09,650
we've provided you with links to all

1388
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:13,400
these videos and various websites that

1389
01:07:18,279 --> 01:07:15,920
you can include in the show notes yes I

1390
01:07:20,859 --> 01:07:18,289
will and if we've left anything out let

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01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:20,869
us know and we will provide it perfect

1392
01:07:26,620 --> 01:07:24,049
and Patrick do remind the people just

1393
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:26,630
real quick about your actual work your

1394
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:29,359
website and your books just so they can

1395
01:07:33,099 --> 01:07:31,039
maybe get up to speed so they're even

1396
01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:33,109
able to jump in and start helping you

1397
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:35,569
because you need this context the

1398
01:07:41,410 --> 01:07:39,529
website is vaccine fraud com it has all

1399
01:07:45,849 --> 01:07:41,420
the links of what you need to do to find

1400
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:45,859
you know my previous book that ICD 9 9 9

1401
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:49,039
is where this all started in 2008 and

1402
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:52,430
here we are 10 years later going back to

1403
01:07:57,099 --> 01:07:54,710
the same source material and saying hey

1404
01:07:59,650 --> 01:07:57,109
we're back to serum sickness again and

1405
01:08:01,210 --> 01:07:59,660
so that is the best primer book because

1406
01:08:03,999 --> 01:08:01,220
everybody asked well what book should I

1407
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:04,009
read ICD 9 9 9 will bring you up to

1408
01:08:08,890 --> 01:08:07,039
speed there's a link for my books on the

1409
01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:08,900
website and there's a bunch of other

1410
01:08:13,930 --> 01:08:11,390
stuff out there that will blow your mind

1411
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:13,940
because the world is not what you were

1412
01:08:18,999 --> 01:08:18,770
told it was amen well said cheers to

1413
01:08:21,550 --> 01:08:19,009
that

1414
01:08:23,740 --> 01:08:21,560
and yes so many things we left on the

1415
01:08:28,269 --> 01:08:23,750
table we didn't even talk about our

1416
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:28,279
water system also known as 50 years of

1417
01:08:34,689 --> 01:08:32,000
piss water and there's there's so much

1418
01:08:36,729 --> 01:08:34,699
there as well so we'll have to do this

1419
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:36,739
again but very cool big thanks to both

1420
01:08:40,629 --> 01:08:38,449
of you I know it's a marathon session

1421
01:08:42,419 --> 01:08:40,639
around here but Annette I wish you the

1422
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:42,429
best with your health and wellness

1423
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:44,810
Patrick you're doing great stuff the

1424
01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:47,120
little red hands all you guys you know

1425
01:08:50,410 --> 01:08:49,310
keep it up it does mean a lot and I

1426
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:50,420
think people are going to really

1427
01:08:56,729 --> 01:08:52,730
appreciate it so take care out there

1428
01:08:59,229 --> 01:08:56,739
thank you if anybody has any question

1429
01:09:04,660 --> 01:08:59,239
added in the comments and we'll be glad

1430
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:04,670
to to respond sweet Umbrella Academy

1431
01:09:07,689 --> 01:09:07,250
chaos dear people what did you think of

1432
01:09:10,090 --> 01:09:07,699
that

1433
01:09:12,780 --> 01:09:10,100
Patrick Jordan and Annette the Little

1434
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:12,790
Red Hen Wow

1435
01:09:18,370 --> 01:09:15,650
personally I think it's nice to get into

1436
01:09:20,090 --> 01:09:18,380
a medical show that isn't just about

1437
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,100
vaccines or can

1438
01:09:24,349 --> 01:09:22,080
sir I know those things are referenced

1439
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:24,359
and it is all in the suit but this one's

1440
01:09:29,260 --> 01:09:26,130
a little off the beaten path it's one of

1441
01:09:32,690 --> 01:09:29,270
those that I call a same but different

1442
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:32,700
one of my favorite kind of shows and of

1443
01:09:36,980 --> 01:09:35,040
course I'm not really equipped to verify

1444
01:09:39,020 --> 01:09:36,990
a lot of these claims despite the

1445
01:09:42,230 --> 01:09:39,030
elevated pedestal some listeners might

1446
01:09:44,060 --> 01:09:42,240
put me on I'm just a guy I asked some

1447
01:09:46,730 --> 01:09:44,070
alright questions and I know I don't

1448
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:46,740
trust the medical system I try to keep

1449
01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:49,050
as much distance from it as I can but

1450
01:09:52,610 --> 01:09:49,710
that's it

1451
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:52,620
it's unfortunate that the CDC the FDA

1452
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:55,650
the AMA all these corporations can't be

1453
01:10:00,860 --> 01:09:58,290
trusted because their credibility has

1454
01:10:04,010 --> 01:10:00,870
been completely compromised if they even

1455
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:04,020
ever had any to begin with so we have to

1456
01:10:09,650 --> 01:10:06,810
go to a self-described farm boy for the

1457
01:10:12,170 --> 01:10:09,660
answers I don't know if he's 100% right

1458
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:12,180
but I know he cares and his interest is

1459
01:10:14,780 --> 01:10:14,310
in helping people and getting to the

1460
01:10:16,910 --> 01:10:14,790
truth

1461
01:10:19,370 --> 01:10:16,920
he's not trying to make money off

1462
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,380
anyone's illness like the Machine does I

1463
01:10:23,810 --> 01:10:21,840
mean he said some things that really

1464
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:23,820
surprised me definitely in the Plus show

1465
01:10:30,230 --> 01:10:27,600
when we got into antioxidants but I feel

1466
01:10:33,290 --> 01:10:30,240
that he's good intentioned and what he

1467
01:10:35,090 --> 01:10:33,300
says makes intuitive sense to me but I

1468
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:35,100
don't know how much my intuition is

1469
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:38,490
really worth even we already know to

1470
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:40,800
never take one person's word for it but

1471
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:42,570
I hope you heard a few things that make

1472
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:44,730
you want to dig even deeper on your own

1473
01:10:50,150 --> 01:10:47,370
and if you liked this one as much as I

1474
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:50,160
would suspect I'm excited about getting

1475
01:10:54,860 --> 01:10:52,650
Patrick back on to talk about some of

1476
01:10:56,410 --> 01:10:54,870
those threads we left hanging like how

1477
01:10:59,630 --> 01:10:56,420
the elite are protecting themselves

1478
01:11:03,080 --> 01:10:59,640
which he said is detailed and complex

1479
01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:03,090
and therefore juicy as far as I'm

1480
01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:06,150
concerned I know Patrick considers a lot

1481
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:08,540
of what we talked about today to be

1482
01:11:13,850 --> 01:11:11,280
revolutionary and paradigm shifting and

1483
01:11:15,740 --> 01:11:13,860
he's arrived at these conclusions not

1484
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,750
only because he's been looking at this

1485
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:17,520
work for many years and has written

1486
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:20,730
several books but the revelations came

1487
01:11:26,660 --> 01:11:24,570
through Annette and her experiences so

1488
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:26,670
as Patrick says we really do have her to

1489
01:11:32,300 --> 01:11:30,210
thank I find it all fascinating and as I

1490
01:11:34,330 --> 01:11:32,310
said I'm obviously skeptical the medical

1491
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:34,340
machine surprise surprise

1492
01:11:40,010 --> 01:11:36,930
conspiracy host doesn't trust Authority

1493
01:11:42,979 --> 01:11:40,020
and I don't know exactly how far back

1494
01:11:44,810 --> 01:11:42,989
the nefariousness of it goes but Patrick

1495
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:44,820
has blown my mind more than a few times

1496
01:11:51,229 --> 01:11:47,070
with his boldness in that regard

1497
01:11:53,060 --> 01:11:51,239
and it's very dark that's true but it's

1498
01:11:55,190 --> 01:11:53,070
hard to reach a level of darkness that

1499
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,200
surprises me anymore I've heard it all I

1500
01:12:00,380 --> 01:11:57,600
don't put anything past big farm anymore

1501
01:12:02,930 --> 01:12:00,390
I would say watching that documentary

1502
01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:02,940
under our skin is a good follow up it is

1503
01:12:07,580 --> 01:12:05,940
on Amazon Prime for free it's one of

1504
01:12:09,620 --> 01:12:07,590
those conspiracy light type of

1505
01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:09,630
documentaries where people like us might

1506
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:12,420
see it and might be much more equipped

1507
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:14,030
to consider the wider and deeper

1508
01:12:18,170 --> 01:12:15,930
implications of what these people are

1509
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:18,180
saying but you can still watch it with

1510
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:20,730
your conventional friends and family but

1511
01:12:25,220 --> 01:12:22,620
let me know what you think as always I'm

1512
01:12:27,530 --> 01:12:25,230
making my guests free lifetime Plus

1513
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:27,540
members the plus member comments are

1514
01:12:32,660 --> 01:12:30,000
always where the best THC conversations

1515
01:12:35,390 --> 01:12:32,670
seem to be had and I'll encourage them

1516
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:35,400
to hop in there if they can to talk to

1517
01:12:40,580 --> 01:12:38,400
you guys recently we've had a lot of

1518
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:40,590
guests following up on their shows in

1519
01:12:45,170 --> 01:12:42,210
the comments actually I think that's

1520
01:12:47,540 --> 01:12:45,180
phenomenal I like to see that follow-up

1521
01:12:49,940 --> 01:12:47,550
from THC episodes when it happens

1522
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:49,950
and speaking of plus the recent

1523
01:12:54,140 --> 01:12:51,810
appearance I had on Sam tripolis

1524
01:12:57,229 --> 01:12:54,150
conspiracies now which films in the

1525
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:57,239
legendary Comedy Store basement is out

1526
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:00,239
now for his patreon subscribers and he

1527
01:13:06,170 --> 01:13:02,489
was kind enough to let me offer it up

1528
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:06,180
two plus members to so it is a video but

1529
01:13:09,380 --> 01:13:07,410
if you want to see me getting

1530
01:13:11,959 --> 01:13:09,390
interviewed and probably my favorite

1531
01:13:14,860 --> 01:13:11,969
building on the planet it's there for

1532
01:13:17,420 --> 01:13:14,870
you thanks to everyone who came out I

1533
01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:17,430
think we might have been one of the very

1534
01:13:24,770 --> 01:13:20,219
few shows that was free to attend and

1535
01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:24,780
you left with a joint edible that was a

1536
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,870
little something special to me but I

1537
01:13:32,540 --> 01:13:29,760
love doing that interview big thanks to

1538
01:13:34,340 --> 01:13:32,550
Sam for having me and as for the plus

1539
01:13:37,490 --> 01:13:34,350
part of today's show with Patrick and

1540
01:13:40,490 --> 01:13:37,500
Annette we talked about antibiotics and

1541
01:13:43,729 --> 01:13:40,500
the cell wall of bacteria the root of

1542
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:43,739
autoimmune issues inflammation immunity

1543
01:13:47,450 --> 01:13:46,320
and disease antioxidants like I

1544
01:13:49,940 --> 01:13:47,460
mentioned

1545
01:13:52,670 --> 01:13:49,950
the multi-generational effects of lime

1546
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,680
trying to keep the infections dormant

1547
01:13:57,740 --> 01:13:54,960
and homeopathy I think there's a little

1548
01:14:00,710 --> 01:13:57,750
bit more to homeopathy than we are told

1549
01:14:03,410 --> 01:14:00,720
sometimes but I just really enjoyed it

1550
01:14:05,150 --> 01:14:03,420
I like Patrick stone and sense of humor

1551
01:14:08,270 --> 01:14:05,160
and I know he's not afraid to drop an

1552
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:08,280
f-bomb when F bombs must be dropped but

1553
01:14:13,610 --> 01:14:11,130
that said join me for a joint session on

1554
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:13,620
the 25th this month just a few days I

1555
01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:15,600
believe it's Monday actually 7:00 p.m.

1556
01:14:20,540 --> 01:14:17,880
Pacific time and I'll talk to you then

1557
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:20,550
for now I've done my part

1558
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:22,800
your move Plum Island perpetrators

1559
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:24,690
humanity infectors and ticks bit

1560
01:14:35,710 --> 01:14:29,850
spirochetes your [\h__\h] move have a

1561
01:14:41,180 --> 01:14:35,720
drink enough smoke listen to the cast

1562
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:41,190
shiny shiny spotlight but criminals on

1563
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:46,370
blast the pinstripe man of morning and

1564
01:14:55,900 --> 01:14:51,690
families of Finance dupe on Windsor and

1565
01:15:00,320 --> 01:14:55,910
Rothschild the kids don't stand a chance

1566
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:00,330
the kids don't the kids don't stand the

1567
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:04,080
kids don't stand a chance I say the kids

1568
01:15:09,710 --> 01:15:07,530
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1569
01:15:13,790 --> 01:15:09,720
don't stand a chance

1570
01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:13,800
we're looking for the answer to

1571
01:15:24,300 --> 01:15:18,670
questions never asked so we come to the

1572
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:24,310
car wood for the higher side chats the

1573
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:28,960
pinstripe man of morning and families of

1574
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:33,690
Finance do pawn Windsor and Rothschild

1575
01:15:41,490 --> 01:15:37,120
the kids don't stand a chance

1576
01:15:45,210 --> 01:15:41,500
the kids don't the kids don't stand the

1577
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:45,220
kids don't stand a chance I say the kids

1578
01:16:06,830 --> 01:15:48,670
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1579
01:16:12,420 --> 01:16:06,840
don't stand a chance involved in shady

1580
01:16:16,770 --> 01:16:12,430
business we try to get a glance we're

1581
01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:16,780
working on the numbers resistance must

1582
01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:22,380
advance the pinstripe man of morning and

1583
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:27,640
families of Finance do pawn Windsor and

1584
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:32,170
Rothschild the kids don't stand a chance

1585
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:36,370
the kids don't the kids don't stand the

1586
01:16:43,530 --> 01:16:39,760
kids don't stand a chance I said the

1587
01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:43,540
kids don't the kids don't stand the kids

1588
01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:48,310
don't stand a chance the kids don't the

1589
01:16:55,500 --> 01:16:51,580
kids don't stand the kids don't stand a

1590
01:16:58,410 --> 01:16:55,510
chance I said the kids don't the kids

1591
01:16:59,360 --> 01:16:58,420
don't stand the kids don't stand a